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mea5

HELP tile is in not grouted yet. Is the pattern too dark?

mea5
5 anni fa
Gosh, after thinking I picked the perfect tile, I am now wondering if it’s too much contrast against the surrounding tile.

Looking for expert advice or confidence that I made a good choice.

Floor tile is dark, cabinets are dark. Running out of time. Thank you.
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  • MongoCT
    5 anni fa
    Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

    "I am now wondering if it’s too much contrast against the surrounding tile."

    I don't think there's too much contrast between the inset piece and the shower walls. I'd leave it as is.

    You have a large shower with large format, mostly white tile. The inset has contrast, but it's neither too small nor too large, and the proportions are good. It doesn't overwhelm the space, nor detract from it.

    I'd leave it and enjoy it. It's an accent. A focal point. And it does just that.

    Now...what I WOULD recommend you focus on is having a conversation with your installers about what waterproofing was used in the shower to protect the walls from water intrusion.

    Your second-to-last photo in your previous post shows what appears to be the shower side of the pony wall with a niche inset in the pony wall. I see no surface applied water proofing membrane being carried over from behind the tiled wall to the left of the niche wall and on to the face of the the Wonderboard Lite tile backer board on the niche pony wall. With no membrane on the face of the backer board, an option would be to use 6-mil poly sheeting or an equivalent behind the tile backer board, but I see none in the niche cutout.

    Where the Wonderboard on that niche wall meets the already tiled wall, I see no mesh tape or thinset peeking out from behind the tile to show that the cement board seam in the corner was reinforced with thinset and mesh tape.

    On your shower curb, there's only a bit visible, but it looks like the surface that is showing is the floor membrane itself. I don't know how they plan on finishing the curb off, but no fasteners (screws, nails, etc) should go through that membrane on the top of the curb.

    Those are a few things that I see in the photos. I recommend you have a conversation about it. They may have used proper methods, or plan to use some other methods, and I'm simply not seeing it in the photos. Perhaps all will become clear after I finish my mid-morning cup of coffee.

    Understand that Wonderboard (which is a cement board and a fine product in my opinion), while impervious to damage from water itself, is not WATERPROOF. Wonderboard will allow water to pass through it if it becomes wet. That's why cement backer boards like Wonderboard will typically have water protection on the face of it (RedGard, Hydroban Liquid, or a sheet membrane for example) or water protection behind it (typically 6-mil poly).

    You have larger tiles on the walls, which will provide great water shedding protection. But the niche can slow down water shedding, allowing water more time to wet the grout, the tile backer board, and get in to the framed walls behind the tile backer board. Niches and niche walls need top notch protection.


    Edit for spelling

    Commenti (50)

    • PRO
      GN Builders L.L.C
      5 anni fa

      It makes a nice accent wall... But IMO I just don't think this is the right tile for the inlay. Inlays usually don't have a continuation in the pattern, so it looks like an individual piece. When using tiles with continuation patterns it looks like something is missing.

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      Thanks for input, and I understand your input, ..... color wise grout will be a little darker and may pull it together??
    • PRO
      JAN MOYER
      5 anni fa
      Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

      Bad idea, badly placed, not needed. If anywhere? on the floor. . Take it out is my advice. And a bit too much going on here...........?



    • Laura Mac
      5 anni fa
      Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

      mea5, is that grouted? Hard to tell by the spacers still in the tiles. If not, what color are you grouting?

      So you want confidence? Hahaha don't come to Houzz! Everyone will pick apart your choices. I LOVE your choices, and I don't think the grout is bad (if that is it). What will you do if someone doesn't like it, would you take it down and start over?

      If so, have to agree with GN that the tile inlay isn't the right size/feel. I would have just gone with your off-white tiles all the way around, or put that on one entire wall. The inlay is not spaced properly between the tiles (top is about 1" under and then bottom rests about 3" under the bottom, and it needs some trim (pencil of some sort) around it, etc....but it's really cute! It's just one of those personal preferences of mine. Use a different pattern In a niche, yes, on an entire wall, yes, going from ceiling to floor in a vertical row, yes, but not just a rectangle plunked in the middle....but if you love it, that's all that matters!

      And dark grout is not my fave agains light tiles.....(again, my personal preference). I'd go with a grout that is the light gray in your white tile.

      Again, love all your choices!!! Beautiful.

    • PRO
      GN Builders L.L.C
      5 anni fa

      I agree with Laura, the grout would be to dark, pick a mid tone grout on the lighter tile, you want the tile to stand out, not the grout joints.

    • DLM2000-GW
      5 anni fa

      If you have the option to take it out, I would. Your concern that it's too much is justified and the pattern as mentioned above is not the best choice for an inlay. The darker grout IMO is going to further add to the visual busy-ness. Sorry - I know that's not what you were hoping for.

      On another note, the rug beneath your samples is gorgeous! Would love to know where you found it or who makes it - thanks.

    • Sammie J
      5 anni fa

      Answering your question, "is there too much contrast", I would say no. Don't do darker grout tho - that will add too much contrast overall. Love your overall choices!

    • PRO
      Creative Tile Eastern CT
      5 anni fa

      "mea5, is that grouted? Hard to tell by the spacers still in the tiles."

      "So you want confidence? Hahaha don't come to Houzz!"

      Title of post - HELP tile is in not grouted yet.


      One way to prove a point:)


    • mvcanada
      5 anni fa

      I love that tile, but I'd put it on the floor if it were mine. I tend to agree it may not have been the best choice for your wall. Is it a niche, or is it just an accent area?

      I'm looking at your original picture. Are the small dark grey tiles for the floor?

      And the white background piece bottom left, is that your counter for the vanity?

      What is the wood look tile for?

      I think you need to remove at least one element from your choices there unless its a really large bathroom.

      I think I'd make the shower all the same tile. I'd put the pattern on the floor and get rid of the small square grey tiles. But is it a bathtub or a shower? Are those little grey ones for the floor of the shower?

      Sorry, I have so many questions. Can you post pictures of the rest of the space and specify which tile is going where? I think that might help others give you good advice on how to proceed.

      If you are having doubts yourself, then I think the best thing to do is remove it. If you love it, then go for it, but I don't think you'd be asking if you were really sure it is what you want.

    • hummingalong2
      5 anni fa
      Presuming the small grey tiles are the shower floor? It may look better when you see them together. Definitely no dark grout.
    • artistsharonva
      5 anni fa

      Dark grout accents the lines & makes space feel smaller. Can't use bleach cleaners either.




    • artistsharonva
      5 anni fa

      I would take out the square accent.

      Maybe you can do a recess area instead



    • houseinthewoods18
      5 anni fa

      Do you like it? If you like it, then you made a good choice and it’s great. Right? Very pretty tile - I think it looks nice. It makes a statement. But, if you don’t like it, and can afford the expense, then put something else there. But let it be up to you.

    • Fori
      5 anni fa

      I like it. I'd do a grey that matches the middle tone in the patterned tile. It will be wonderful when it's all put together.

    • saratogaswizzlestick
      5 anni fa

      I would take it out. I don't feel you need an accent tile. Continue on with what you have as a field tile. The rest looks great.

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      I appreciate the input. I bought through the weekend to make a decision. So sad, I really loved that tile. I am leaning toward removing the tile and keeping it all the same. Less is more. Ironically that patterned tile was the inspiration for everything.

      DLM2000-GW, thank you I like the rug too, and it’s thin enough that I use it as a table runner. I do not remember where I bought it, either Home Goods or World Market.
    • DLM2000-GW
      5 anni fa

      Oy! Well it was great inspiration because everything else works together beautifully - and that works too, just not the best choice in that location in that configuration.... but the thing is, if you love it and if it will make you smile every time you step into the shower that's all that really matters. I still would not use a dark grout but go for the mid-tone of the pattern tile instead. We area all so much about what's 'perfect or right or fits the rules' here and tend to put less emphasis on what makes someone happy. At the end of the day, it's a shower - YOUR shower - not world peace where we all have a stake in what happens. Life is short. If it's making you sad to lose it then don't.

      Thanks for the info on the rug - figures it's not something with a name that I can search for!!

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      A few more pics, the counters are a tobacco, with narrow cabinet on tops in a soft off white. The main shower tile goes under that window, where we are installing a cast iron clawfoot. I originally wanted the patter for a niche, but didn’t want to cover it with ugly shampoo bottles, so we elected for just the focal point and then put the niche where you wont see it. (Not a huge master).
    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      Hiding niche, tile around tub area, door is being reconstructed to a pocket door into the water closet.
    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      PS. @artisthsharonva Thanks for the tip on bleaching dark grout. I am a bleacher!
    • ljk1
      5 anni fa


      I would stick with your original plan. Possibly add some kind of frame around the accent tile in the shower. I might think about doing the accent shower tile also on the floor. Find a different spot for that great rug. Very nice



    • roarah
      5 anni fa

      I like it it is unique.

    • DLM2000-GW
      5 anni fa

      Mongo!! Haven't seen you in these parts in forever!

      mea5 do check on your waterproofing. I know just enough about it to be dangerous so hesitated to say anything. My familiarity is with Portland enclosures but they are like hen's teeth. Mongo is steering you in the right direction to save future headaches.

    • PRO
      Creative Tile Eastern CT
      5 anni fa
      Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

      Please do not ignore Mongo's comment. I would have commented the same. He often saves me typing:) The comment is NOT a criticism. We point these details out to help protect the homeowner. Refer to Wonderboard installation instructions to understand our concerns.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpzPLIXFkHU

    • MongoCT
      5 anni fa

      @DLM2000-GW & Creative Tile Eastern CT

      Hello, children!

      I come and go, been traveling for a bit.

      Thanks for the kind words.

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      All thank you for pointing this out. We had a lot of discussions on the waterproofing, I absolutely see the missing waterproofing on the niche. YIKES! I do know that a 4ml PVC plan liner goes around the floor and up the walls (not sure how far), I think there was a waterproofing up the wall. We had to have an inspector come out before the tile was laid, (Where they had to leave water in the floor pan). Also used was the orange schleigter (sp) on the entire floor).

      What’s on the floor is not on the wall, but just pointing out additional protection.
    • lizziesma
      5 anni fa

      I like all your choices. Finish it and enjoy every shower experience!

    • PRO
      Debbi Washburn
      5 anni fa

      I love it - I would not do a darker grout though but I would also not do a matching grout... maybe a slight contrast.

      Hang in there....

    • artistsharonva
      5 anni fa

      Overall, it's coming together nicely.

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      So my decision may have been made easier. The shower wall tile in the lot that I currently have is no longer available. There is one that is close, same color but packed on a different day that is available. That may be fine, but thinking it may be risky since I am not in a situation to mix the new box with the others, since it’s already up.
    • DLM2000-GW
      5 anni fa

      Sometimes fate steps in and hands you a decision. Since you love that tile and it was the jumping off point for everything else it's going to work out just fine.

    • mark_rachel
      5 anni fa

      I honestly think it looks great! I would be hesitant to remove the tile & damage the waterproofing behind it. I would keep it. I would go with light gray grout.

    • Fori
      5 anni fa

      Good. I like the pattern! You like the pattern!

      (But as others mentioned, don't neglect to confirm that the shower is waterproof!)

    • PRO
      Designer Drains
      5 anni fa

      I think it looks great, it's unique and not out the box like most installs!

    • cindylou62
      5 anni fa

      No one goes in your shower but you! If that tile makes you smile, that right there is what is important! i would say go with a light grout and enjoy, you have a great eye, a bit of an artist I presume, keep going with you other ideas in the bath and feel like a princess! Again, no one sees a master bath but the masters!!


    • PRO
      Serra Design Inc
      5 anni fa
      Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

      I think you are asking the question when it is too late, I love your color palette, however they are in the wrong locations. Use light grout on the marble!!!

    • Laurie Tillett
      5 anni fa
      If you love tile, bit maybe just not in that location (my thoughts as well), tear it out and make a mirror surround in that tile. It will look like a piece of art!
    • artistsharonva
      5 anni fa

      It looks fine as is.

      It is probably too late, but I think a stripe to floor to ceiling would be nice

    • artistsharonva
      5 anni fa

      or possibly the whole back wall

    • Laura Mac
      5 anni fa
      Ultima modifica: 5 anni fa

      @Creative Tile Eastern, you were 'italicizing' MY questions that I asked her originally after she first posted I thought her back wall was grouted (the one's w/o the spacers) and she was asking if it's too dark.....that's why I was questioning it....

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      Thanks again everyone. Thought I would post the finished product. Super happy with the space. Now on to the attached master bedroom.
    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      And a few from the “before”.
    • Snaggy
      5 anni fa

      Nice ..but I like the first tile

    • enduring
      5 anni fa

      What a restful room. Many happy hours in your new space! It is lovely!

    • Brenda
      5 anni fa

      Beautiful! What is the wood look tile on the floor? I really like it.

    • Utente-161159613
      5 anni fa

      Beautiful!

    • mea5
      Autore originale
      5 anni fa
      @br
    • raromeo
      5 anni fa
      love it! really like the accent tile in the shower. what a beautiful transformation. enjoy soaking in that gorgeous tub!
    • PRO
      Debbi Washburn
      5 anni fa

      Beautiful job! Thank you for posting finished pictures ! And thank you very much for doing something other than white and gray marble in the bathroom!

      This is so much nicer

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