Cost for impact windows and sliding doors (quotes from $42k-$91k!)
I own a house that needs a whole-home renovation, including all new windows and sliding glass doors.
Because of where we are located (FL) they're required to be impact-resistant which adds a little bit, but not exponentially, to the cost.
I wanted black interior/black exterior frames because it's a modern house, but have kind of given up on that because I got even crazier quotes for black/black.
For white interior/white exterior frames, my quotes have ranged from $42,000 installed (product by Custom Window Systems installed by local distributor) up to $91,000 installed (PGT product installed by Home Depot). The in-between quotes were $57k, $82k...
Please help me understand a couple things--
1. Is black/black (they call it "bronze/bronze" but looks almost black to me) supposed to be that much more expensive? My black/black quotes were all the way UP TO OVER $110,000!
2. Now I'm thinking my $42k quote for white/white is what I should go with, but is that even a little high? Any recommendations? Located in Tampa Bay Area.
3. A lot of the cost is added by geometric windows which some have to be custom-sized. Anyone have any luck with having a glass/mirror fabricator rather than a "window" company fabricate an impact window in geometric shapes?
Thank you!! :) Just a little shell-shocked by these estimates--the $42,000 works for my budget, but still seems a little ridiculous. The house is not huge, under 3000 sq ft, but yes it does have a lot of windows.
Commenti (16)
User
6 anni fa42K would be way Red Flag Low. What are you Not getting at that lowball price. Because it will not be apples to apples, that's for sure.
sar000 ha ringraziato User
PROsar000 ha ringraziato Joseph Corlett, LLC
millworkman
6 anni faHow many windows is "a lot"? What style windows? How many operables? How many and what size doors? Swing or sliding? The price range you state seems off for an apples to apples comparison. To get accurate info you need to give accurate info...........
sar000 ha ringraziato millworkmansar000
Autore originale6 anni faMillworkman it is 12 windows (10 slide side-to-side windows, 2 picture windows), 4 sliding glass doors, 10 geometric trapezoid.
sar000
Autore originale6 anni faThe 42k estimate is the same brand as some of the higher ones-Custom Window Systems and the same "line" of that brand. A couple of the higher ones are for PGT.
millworkman
6 anni faUltima modifica: 6 anni faFrom my understanding PGT is a higher quality product than the CWS but something else is off then if the quantity, brand and MODEL numbers (including every bit of hardware) and Glass type are all identical. Are they all suppling the exact same flashing material and details? Have they all been properly vetted? Is one of them a fly by night chuck in a truck verssus a showroom dealer?
sar000 ha ringraziato millworkmanklem1
6 anni fa- Contractors can smell easy marks over a mile away, you smell like an easy mark to me and I'm over a thousand miles away. Did you write up anything that resemble's a scope of work? If so I can't believe contractors refuse to tell you why they charge twice as much for black as they do for white. You didn't ask even for black and white options from each contractor did you?
sar000
Autore originale6 anni faKlem1 I'm not an "easy mark." I own a very successful business in a different industry so I know how to negotiate and nothing goes over my head. I've replaced windows in other homes before, just never the whole house, so I was surprised by the variation in numbers. Yes, I wrote a detailed scope of work. And yes I asked for both colors from different contractors.
sar000
Autore originale6 anni faMillworkman not "fly by night" but the lowest quote is a wholesale distribution company that also installs. They mostly install for contractors I've heard--they don't give out the fancy brochures like the homeowner-oriented companies do that I got the high estimates from. Their reps don't wear nice polos like the homeowner-oriented companies. But their warehouse is local and locally well known, they've been around for decades, and came highly recommended by an investor friend and several contractors in other trades. Yes the other higher estimates were "showroom" type companies. I was just especially shocked by Home Depot. I expected them to be the lowest.
PROEvolution Hurricane Shutters, LLC
6 anni faWhomever told you that your windows needed to be impact rated did you a disservice and made you a target for salespeople to push expensive impact windows on you. Impact windows only need to be used if you are not going to protect whatever windows you decide to install with approved hurricane protection. So, in a way, you might be viewed as an "easy mark" as someone stated earlier. Don't feel bad - I hear these stories every day. You would be surprised to hear the many folks that I speak with who say
"I don't need shutters - my windows are hurricane proof!" There are no hurricane proof impact glass windows available to the general public. Simply stated, if you windows are made from glass - no matter what king - they're going to break - period.Click on the link below to see what happens to an impact window during a large missile impact event:
This leads to my next question of, "If you opt for the more expensive impact windows, how are you going to protect them from breaking?" You see, impact windows ARE resistant to hurricane wind load pressures but they AREN'T that good when it comes to being impact resistant. They are a "sacrificial" form of fenestration designed to break when impacted but remain in place to preserve the integrity of the building envelop and thus prevent pressurization of the structure during a tropical weather event. They were never intended to "survive" or "withstand" a hurricane impact. Quite the opposite is true. And as you can see from the video, once they are impacted they no longer pass air infiltration or water penetration standards and need to be replaced. Those impact windows weren't cheap when they were installed and they aren't going to be cheap to replace.
So, no matter what windows you choose, protecting their investment cost only makes sense. Whether you decide on a high quality aluminum framed version with a 50+ year life expectancy or a pvc framed unit that only lasts for 25-30 years, protecting them is something to consider to avoid the expense, mess and inconvenience of having to replace them when they break.
The bottom line is do your homework before you plunk down a ton of cash for new windows. There are dozens of types, styles, construction materials & methods, glazings and sealants used for manufacturing. If you're environmentally conscious you'll probably want to stay away from pvc because of their toxic hazards during the manufacture and disposal. However, if you're a "flipper", you'll most likely opt for the low cost of pvc and not worry about lifespan or toxic effects. If you're looking for something dimensionally stable, steel frames might be your choice. There's also aluminum, fiberglass and wood models to check out, as well. Once you decide if the up front expense or long term payoff is more important, your choices get easier. Good luck with your search.
sar000
Autore originale6 anni faThank you Evolution. In my home value range it is taken as a given that every window and door must be impact.- PRO
Evolution Hurricane Shutters, LLC
6 anni faThat's unusual. Most building owners of 3000sf or more that call me - residential or commercial - are anxious to get away from impact windows due mainly to the high upfront as well as replacement costs.
User
6 anni faSometimes posts are self-serving. I just did a whole house reno on a newly purchased house. used Clearwater Window and Door on Gulf to Bay for impact PGT. Ask for James. Reasonably priced, good service. And yes, bronze costs considerably more. I went with white because of the added color cost for bronze. Don't need shutters, love the look of my custom windows!
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